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    US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies'

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ilians-fingers

    US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies'
    Soldiers face charges over secret 'kill team' which allegedly murdered at random and collected fingers as trophies of war

    Chris McGreal in Washington
    The Guardian, Thursday 9 September 2010

    Twelve American soldiers face charges over a secret "kill team" that allegedly blew up and shot Afghan civilians at random and collected their fingers as trophies.

    Five of the soldiers are charged with murdering three Afghan men who were allegedly killed for sport in separate attacks this year. Seven others are accused of covering up the killings and assaulting a recruit who exposed the murders when he reported other abuses, including members of the unit smoking hashish stolen from civilians.

    In one of the most serious accusations of war crimes to emerge from the Afghan conflict, the killings are alleged to have been carried out by members of a Stryker infantry brigade based in Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan.

    According to investigators and legal documents, discussion of killing Afghan civilians began after the arrival of Staff Sergeant Calvin Gibbs at forward operating base Ramrod last November. Other soldiers told the army's criminal investigation command that Gibbs boasted of the things he got away with while serving in Iraq and said how easy it would be to "toss a grenade at someone and kill them".

    One soldier said he believed Gibbs was "feeling out the platoon".

    Investigators said Gibbs, 25, hatched a plan with another soldier, Jeremy Morlock, 22, and other members of the unit to form a "kill team". While on patrol over the following months they allegedly killed at least three Afghan civilians. According to the charge sheet, the first target was Gul Mudin, who was killed "by means of throwing a fragmentary grenade at him and shooting him with a rifle", when the patrol entered the village of La Mohammed Kalay in January.

    Morlock and another soldier, Andrew Holmes, were on guard at the edge of a poppy field when Mudin emerged and stopped on the other side of a wall from the soldiers. Gibbs allegedly handed Morlock a grenade who armed it and dropped it over the wall next to the Afghan and dived for cover. Holmes, 19, then allegedly fired over the wall.

    Later in the day, Morlock is alleged to have told Holmes that the killing was for fun and threatened him if he told anyone.

    The second victim, Marach Agha, was shot and killed the following month. Gibbs is alleged to have shot him and placed a Kalashnikov next to the body to justify the killing. In May Mullah Adadhdad was killed after being shot and attacked with a grenade.

    The Army Times reported that a least one of the soldiers collected the fingers of the victims as souvenirs and that some of them posed for photographs with the bodies.

    Five soldiers Gibbs, Morlock, Holmes, Michael Wagnon and Adam Winfield are accused of murder and aggravated assault among other charges. All of the soldiers have denied the charges. They face the death penalty or life in prison if convicted.

    The killings came to light in May after the army began investigating a brutal assault on a soldier who told superiors that members of his unit were smoking hashish. The Army Times reported that members of the unit regularly smoked the drug on duty and sometimes stole it from civilians.

    The soldier, who was straight out of basic training and has not been named, said he witnessed the smoking of hashish and drinking of smuggled alcohol but initially did not report it out of loyalty to his comrades. But when he returned from an assignment at an army headquarters and discovered soldiers using the shipping container in which he was billeted to smoke hashish he reported it.

    Two days later members of his platoon, including Gibbs and Morlock, accused him of "snitching", gave him a beating and told him to keep his mouth shut. The soldier reported the beating and threats to his officers and then told investigators what he knew of the "kill team".

    Following the arrest of the original five accused in June, seven other soldiers were charged last month with attempting to cover up the killings and violent assault on the soldier who reported the smoking of hashish. The charges will be considered by a military grand jury later this month which will decide if there is enough evidence for a court martial. Army investigators say Morlock has admitted his involvement in the killings and given details about the role of others including Gibbs. But his lawyer, Michael Waddington, is seeking to have that confession suppressed because he says his client was interviewed while under the influence of prescription drugs taken for battlefield injuries and that he was also suffering from traumatic brain injury.

    "Our position is that his statements were incoherent, and taken while he was under a cocktail of drugs that shouldn't have been mixed," Waddington told the Seattle Times.

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    What.The.Fuck. I hope they hang these sick fuckers.

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    i dunno... sounds like it COULD be some boot just making up stories because he was pissed that his seniors kicked his ass for telling on them about drinking and smoking hash.

    but if this is true, fuck them. i wouldn't be against the death penalty here. killing civvies for fun? sick fucks.

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    Pieces of shit.

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    it's really fucked up when something like this comes to light, but so much unreported shit just gets covered up

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    Jesus Christ, if this is true they should just tie them up hand and foot, and hand them to the families of the people they murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off_Chance View Post
    it's really fucked up when something like this comes to light, but so much unreported shit just gets covered up
    how do you know if it was unreported?

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    This shit happens all the time. A friend of a friend of a friend of mine (just in case someone real comes knocking I can play ignorance) went into a house where a suspected terrorist lived. They dropped a gun at his feat and said if he didnt pick it up, they'd shoot him. He picked it up so they shot him in the face.

    Another kid was supposed to be blocking access to a bridge. Instead of waiving cars down and explaining they couldnt go that way, they'd a few cars drive up and then shoot out the engine block with a .50 cal.

    They got caught doing what a lot of people do. You know what, if the afghans handled their shit in the first place, we wouldnt be over there babysitting a bunch of sandniggers. Get our people home and let them kill each other.

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    Haha, sandniggers. Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongerAtHeart View Post
    This shit happens all the time. A friend of a friend of a friend of mine (just in case someone real comes knocking I can play ignorance) went into a house where a suspected terrorist lived. They dropped a gun at his feat and said if he didnt pick it up, they'd shoot him. He picked it up so they shot him in the face.

    Another kid was supposed to be blocking access to a bridge. Instead of waiving cars down and explaining they couldnt go that way, they'd a few cars drive up and then shoot out the engine block with a .50 cal.

    They got caught doing what a lot of people do. You know what, if the afghans handled their shit in the first place, we wouldnt be over there babysitting a bunch of sandniggers. Get our people home and let them kill each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongerAtHeart View Post
    This shit happens all the time. A friend of a friend of a friend of mine (just in case someone real comes knocking I can play ignorance) went into a house where a suspected terrorist lived. They dropped a gun at his feat and said if he didnt pick it up, they'd shoot him. He picked it up so they shot him in the face.

    Another kid was supposed to be blocking access to a bridge. Instead of waiving cars down and explaining they couldnt go that way, they'd a few cars drive up and then shoot out the engine block with a .50 cal.

    They got caught doing what a lot of people do. You know what, if the afghans handled their shit in the first place, we wouldnt be over there babysitting a bunch of sandniggers. Get our people home and let them kill each other.
    You're right its those damn Sandniggers fault for US troops killing innocent people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongerAtHeart View Post
    This shit happens all the time. A friend of a friend of a friend of mine (just in case someone real comes knocking I can play ignorance) went into a house where a suspected terrorist lived. They dropped a gun at his feat and said if he didnt pick it up, they'd shoot him. He picked it up so they shot him in the face.

    Another kid was supposed to be blocking access to a bridge. Instead of waiving cars down and explaining they couldnt go that way, they'd a few cars drive up and then shoot out the engine block with a .50 cal.

    They got caught doing what a lot of people do. You know what, if the afghans handled their shit in the first place, we wouldnt be over there babysitting a bunch of sandniggers. Get our people home and let them kill each other.
    Dude exactly, fuck babysitting sand niggers, they are such an inferior people, we should just kill more of them for no reason. But don't worry it's perfectly fine to kill them and fuck with them with no reason because a lot of people do it just like your friend of a friend. Since they're inferior it's all good.

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    What's this, a soldier with untreated mental illness? Impossible! Everyone knows that we have to be submit to full super-secret brain-scans before we deploy.
    Seriously though, one in ten people have an undetected mental disorder, do you really think the military would have a lower rate?

    And where the hell are the probations for these spam posts?
    SpongerAtHeart, don't troll a CE
    Mafiaisco, learn to spot a troll-post
    cowfit, don't go along with a troll
    Chias, your post was garbage
    You guys are '08s spamming shit like you're '10s

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    Aww, come on, man. Look how easy it is to get people's panties all in a bunch. This was actually a bet with my friend. I told her that people on here hate me so much I could defend troops killing innocent people and members would take it seriously.

    Y'all are fucking retarded. Of course its fucked up they killed innocent people. But the sad truth is this shit really does happen. It causes more hate and turns more people off of our cause. We should get the fuck out, but we can't because we havent finished our job.

    Those stories were true actually told to me from people who witnessed them.

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    what the fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongerAtHeart View Post
    Aww, come on, man. Look how easy it is to get people's panties all in a bunch. This was actually a bet with my friend. I told her that people on here hate me so much I could defend troops killing innocent people and members would take it seriously.

    Y'all are fucking retarded. Of course its fucked up they killed innocent people. But the sad truth is this shit really does happen. It causes more hate and turns more people off of our cause. We should get the fuck out, but we can't because we havent finished our job.

    Those stories were true actually told to me from people who witnessed them.
    You should probably question how sad your beliefs are over how much people hate you.

    I already told you it's nice to have you back. So one would think that eliminates the latter part of that thought process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sissy ass school girl bitch View Post
    how do you know if it was unreported?
    i don't, i just assumed because its a war zone and a protracted conflict with no objective
    Last edited by Off_Chance; 9/13/2010 at 7:48 pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongerAtHeart View Post
    Aww, come on, man. Look how easy it is to get people's panties all in a bunch. This was actually a bet with my friend. I told her that people on here hate me so much I could defend troops killing innocent people and members would take it seriously.

    Y'all are fucking retarded. Of course its fucked up they killed innocent people. But the sad truth is this shit really does happen. It causes more hate and turns more people off of our cause. We should get the fuck out, but we can't because we havent finished our job.

    Those stories were true actually told to me from people who witnessed them.
    Why do I think you're just saying this to save face!?

    Anyway, this story disgusts me! It's terrible enough that people are dying! There's no need to add insult to injury...
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    this war is like vietnam, we don't know who the real terrorists are. the bad guys in vietnam were fighters by night and farmers by day. it's kind of the same way in afghanistan... personally I've never been there, I've never personally experienced an act of terrorism. even 9/11... this sounds selfish as fuck but seriously, i didn't know anyone who died on 9/11. i don't know what it's like over there, but i'd probably do the same thing as they are if I was over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotMan View Post
    this war is like vietnam, we don't know who the real terrorists are. the bad guys in vietnam were fighters by night and farmers by day. it's kind of the same way in afghanistan... personally I've never been there, I've never personally experienced an act of terrorism. even 9/11... this sounds selfish as fuck but seriously, i didn't know anyone who died on 9/11. i don't know what it's like over there, but i'd probably do the same thing as they are if I was over there.
    you would kill civilians and collect fingers?

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