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    New Tech for LEO

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    A Silicon Valley startup has developed technology to let dispatchers know when a police officer's weapon has been fired. The latest product by Yardarm Technologies would notify dispatchers in real time when an officer's gun is taken out of its holster and when it's fired. It can also track where the gun is located and in what direction it was fired. Santa Cruz County Sheriff Phil Wowak, whose agency is among two testing the technology, said it will allow the sheriff's office to see whether deputies are in trouble and unable to ask for assistance.

    "That's the worst nightmare for any police officer in the field," he said.

    The system will not include a remote disabling mechanism. Yardarm was pursuing that technology and demonstrated it at a conference in Las Vegas last year, but it has since abandoned that effort, according to the Capitola, California,-based company's marketing vice president, Jim Schaff.

    Yardarm's system would have triggered an alarm on an owner's cellphone if a gun had been moved, and the owner would then have been able to hit a button to activate the safety and disable the weapon.

    Schaff would not say exactly why the company gave up on remotely disabling guns. Gun rights advocates have raised serious concerns that so-called smart gun technology could be used to limit their access to weapons. The developers insist their latest technology is not creating a smart gun, but rather is "police gunfire tracking technology." Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, said his organization isn't opposed to the particular technology Yardarm is developing and other smart-gun technology. "What we do oppose are government mandates requiring all gun owners to adopt the technology," Paredes said. "If law enforcement wants to adopt this technology, that's great. Just don't make every gun owner adopt the technology."

    Smart gun technology has been around for decades, but technological advances and recent large shootings have prompted more than a dozen smart gun companies to begin developing weapons. Some began selling in gun shops this year, but analysts say controversy surrounding the technology could limit sales. The technology that tracks an officer's gun relies on the Internet and requires a small device that can fit in the handle of most police handguns. It connects to the officer's smart phone using Bluetooth. "The officer simply inserts it into the back of the firearm, and now it's installed. They don't even know it's there anymore," Schaff said during a recent demonstration. Yardarm is paying for the test in the hopes they can develop the technology nationwide and charge departments for it next year.

    Schaff said the company has not yet determined a price.


    How long before this becomes another Cali law?


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    It actually probably won't. There's already extreme resistance to any more curtailing of existing liberties and the roster lawsuit is expected to finish up in our favor here in the next few years. Basically a big giant fuck you to all the idiots in Sacramento trying to run our lives for us.

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    in what way is an automated distress call for law enforcement curtailing existing liberties

    plus, i don't know why gun people are so resistant to smart guns haven't they seen robocop and judge dredd
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    Quote Originally Posted by eedna View Post
    in what way is an automated distress call for law enforcement curtailing existing liberties

    plus, i don't know why gun people are so resistant to smart guns haven't they seen robocop and judge dredd
    If it interferes with the function of the firearm, it's a liability. If you ever had to use your gun, the last thing you want is a superfluous feature malfunctioning, rendering the whole gun useless. Theres a reason law enforcement agencies field guns that are very simple.

    Having said that, I could see people getting behind a system that does all of what this does, minus the disabling feature. Since mere tracking does not need to interfere with the function of the gun, and tracking could prove valuable in cases of theft. I'd prefer it to be an optional feature though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.I. McDunnough View Post
    If it interferes with the function of the firearm, it's a liability. If you ever had to use your gun, the last thing you want is a superfluous feature malfunctioning, rendering the whole gun useless. Theres a reason law enforcement agencies field guns that are very simple.

    Having said that, I could see people getting behind a system that does all of what this does, minus the disabling feature. Since mere tracking does not need to interfere with the function of the gun, and tracking could prove valuable in cases of theft. I'd prefer it to be an optional feature though.
    put a gyroscope + decibel meter inside a rail mounted flashlight/laser, when it detects both a sudden motion (recoil) and loud enough sound (gunshot) in tandem it triggers a distress call

    maybe two magnetic contact points one on the slide one on the handle that when separated act as a third layer of activation

    nothing to do with the mechanical operation of the gun, in fact this is just a better application as you can put it on more guns than just one that specific company manufactures

    if you had the option to trigger an automatic distress call yourself if you had to shoot someone you wouldn't want it? what if you miss and they ice you, if nothing else somebody will be looking for you body at that point
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    Quote Originally Posted by eedna View Post
    put a gyroscope + decibel meter inside a rail mounted flashlight/laser, when it detects both a sudden motion (recoil) and loud enough sound (gunshot) in tandem it triggers a distress call

    maybe two magnetic contact points one on the slide one on the handle that when separated act as a third layer of activation

    nothing to do with the mechanical operation of the gun, in fact this is just a better application as you can put it on more guns than just one that specific company manufactures

    if you had the option to trigger an automatic distress call yourself if you had to shoot someone you wouldn't want it? what if you miss and they ice you, if nothing else somebody will be looking for you body at that point

    You misunderstand me. I'm saying this sort of thing would be useful and desirable to enough people to be marketable BECAUSE it does not need to interfere with the fumction of the firearm. Or to be more precise, if this feature suffered a failure of some kind, the firearm would still be operable. What I'm referring to as not marketable is remote disabling technology or "smart gun" technology that requirtes a bracelet or whatever the fuck to make the gun operable.
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    Although the feature (minus disabling, what a terrible idea) would be neat but not my cup of tea. I'd prefer that people didn't know where my guns were.

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    Id like to know how often this really comes up. I can think of a few cases where an officer has been shot while alone on a traffic stop, but I don't think that is the number one killer of on duty cops.

    I would be much more supportive of new tech that allows video capture of a cops entire shift that downloads to an offsite server so it can't be "lost" or "broken" after they protect and serve the shit out of someone.

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    I think the #1 killer is car accidents, no? Maybe that's just highway patrol, though. Either way, even if you're alive when you're shot if you're unable to call for assistance you'll bleed to death before someone realizes you're gone. This'll help curtail that.

    I'm right there with you though, every LEO should be wearing a camera/mic to protect themselves and us.

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    I agree pretty much 100% with Sodo on this one. Take out the stupid disabling feature, how many officer's guns really get stolen/lost/taken while on shift?
    Plus having a video/mic helps the officers out so much. Makes testimony easier, prevents fucktards from claiming abuse every time they are arrested or detained (look at that dumbass Django Unchained actress). Plus for the asshole cops out there, if they are forced to have a body cam on they wont be able to be as much of an asshole for fear of being caught on video and fired for it.

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