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    Smithsonian Stands By Wildly Misleading Climate Change Exhibit Paid For By Kochs | ThinkProgress


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    why not just make a climate change mega thread? you're diluting the topic


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    I wasn't sure whether to put it under the science forum or this one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hilux View Post
    why not just make a climate change mega thread? you're diluting the topic
    He's also spending way too much time at thinkprogress. That place is a serious echo chamber. Like Foxnews level.
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    This is an actual exhibit at the Smithsonian, by the way. Doesn't that bother anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid a View Post
    This is an actual exhibit at the Smithsonian, by the way. Doesn't that bother anyone?
    "bother" isn't the right word. They can do whatever they want and we can choose to agree that they are misleading. I mean, I don't think someone needs to protect me from this, if that's what you're driving at.
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    Maybe you don't need protection, but what about kids being taught false information as truth? Or at least being "taught the controversy"? This discredits the fuck out of the Smithsonian, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid a View Post
    Maybe you don't need protection, but what about kids being taught false information as truth?
    It's my job to make sure my kids know bullshit when they see it, IMO. Or at least correct the bullshit they get taught, when I see it.

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    Or at least being "taught the controversy"? This discredits the fuck out of the Smithsonian, in my opinion.
    well there IS controversy. Doubious controversy, sure - but we're all still guessing for the most part too (even though our guess has a much higher probability of being right). And I agree, it does discredit the Smithsonian. I do not feel particularly inclined to fix their reputation for them, however.


    EDIT: "for the kids"? c'mon
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    I know, it's a bit corny. But it is a legitimate concern. Do you really think every parent is going to do their due diligence on that shit though? As a science museum, it should only present the truth. Not propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid a View Post
    I know, it's a bit corny. But it is a legitimate concern. Do you really think every parent is going to do their due diligence on that shit though? As a science museum, it should only present the truth. Not propaganda.
    No not every parent will do their jobs, obviously. Look at crime and murder rates as exhibit A. But I'm not going to endorse any kind of "intervention" on what any institution presents other than intervention on the part of individuals. Which is accomplished by perhaps writing them, or most importantly, ceasing patronage. That's a feedback mechanism EVERY institution understands. And certainly not government intervention - think THAT one through for a moment, yikes (not that you were proposing government intervention, btw).
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    Fair point, the only problem is that the federal government subsidizes 70% of the the Smithsonian's budget through federal allocations. If they're gonna be subsidized like that, they need to only present the facts. Or the government should stop funding them. Or revoke their tax exempt status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid a View Post
    Fair point, the only problem is that the federal government subsidizes 70% of the the Smithsonian's budget through federal allocations. If they're gonna be subsidized like that, they need to only present the facts. Or the government should stop funding them. Or revoke their tax exempt status.
    Sure. I'm generally a proponent of government investment in "the arts" and public broadcasting - I think that is the some of the best spent money we spend. But facts are what they are. The Koch exhibit is presenting facts as well. Would you feel the same way if the facts were presented with an alarmist message (not saying it wouldn't be warranted, just stay with me here)? If the answer is no, then how strongly do you really feel about the way these public dollars are being spent on principle versus only when you disagree with the message?
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    They should present science, not propaganda. Otherwise lose their federal funding/tax exempt status. Science has no agenda, just the truth.

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